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 ====== Thermal management and thermal throttling ======
-The laptop will automatically downclock in order to keep the components below this limit. Performance will be lowered to keep it from overheating. No physical damage will occur. In the absolute worst case scenario, when throttling is no longer sufficient, the system should force a shutdown in order to prevent permanent damage. This scenario is rare, and shouldn't happen. There will be plenty of signs that the temperature is becoming critical, like the system extremely slowing down and getting really hot at the same time. Unless fan settings were changed, or they are damaged themselves, they will also spit at their maximum RPM, giving a loud noise. So if your laptop is really loud, really hot and really slow, you know you have a problem.
+The laptop will automatically downclock in order to keep the components below this limit. Performance will be lowered to keep it from overheating. No physical damage will occur. In the absolute worst case scenario, when throttling is no longer sufficient, the system should force a shutdown in order to prevent permanent damage. This scenario is rare, and shouldn't happen. There will be plenty of signs that the temperature is becoming critical, like the system extremely slowing down and getting really hot at the same time. Unless fan settings were changed, or they are damaged themselves, they will also spit at their maximum RPM, giving a loud noise. So if your laptop is really loud, really hot and really slow, you know you have a problem. If you then check your temperature, and it shows for example 86 degrees Celsius on your laptop RTX3080, it means you are likely throttling, or soon to be throttled, in order to keep below the 87 degree limit.
 ==== Laptop throttling limits ====
-. 105c Ryzen / 100c Intel CPU\\
+**Examples of throttle limits**\\
-. 87c for Nvidia
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+. 105c for Ryzen 5600H / 5800H / 5900HX\\
+. 100c for Intel 11800H\\
+. 87c for Nvidia laptop RTX30xx lineup
+Exact numbers can differ for different CPU/GPU models within the same lineup and change over CPU/GPU generation. You can use a third party software, such as HWiNFO, to find out whether you approach the throttle limit, are already throttling or close to being throttled. The application should indicate such behaviour. You can also check the specification on the official websites of the manufacturer, such as Intel, AMD, Nvidia, for **TjMax** value, maximum operating temperature or similar information about temperature.
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+**Laptop vs desktop temperature limits**\\
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+Laptops are designed to run a lot hotter than their desktop counterparts. Temperatures that would be unacceptable in a desktop, and likely to cause a shutdown or permanent damage, can be normal operating temperatures in a laptop. It is therefor important to always check the specification sheet of the component released by the manufacturer instead of relying on some estimate based on other devices.
 ==== Best temperatures for Lenovo Legion ====